but obama has publicly at least advanced a hawkish position. so she seems to be walking in tandem with him there. so you know it isn't really clear if she had been left to her own devices or if obama had played richard nixon and made her his kissinger, whether she would have taken positions very different from his. as it is because she was the implementer she tried to carve out some areas of her own, networking public diplomacy and working on women's issues. but even in those areas including women's issues i'm not sure how lasting the impact is going to be. for example, if we pull completely out of afghanistan all the games that women have made maybe lost. >> susan glasser quick final thoughts. >> well, i guess we're all going to be talking about hillary clinton for some time to come. we are have four years to wait and speculate to see whether she runs for president or not. >> suarez: susan glaser trudy rubin, thank you both. >> woodruff: and to the analysis of shields and brooks-- syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnis